Flametree Yoga Studio

10 HALF off yoga classes | Novice or Non-Beginner

Beginner Bonus: 2 extra classes FREE option

No code needed. First class FREE if new

Half Off At Yoga Darwin NT, Or Online

Our mindful eating classes teach you yoga mindfulness. In other words, yoga makes you more mindful. Then mindfulness helps you cut weight. Put another way, Flametree’s mindful eating coach teaches you the mindfulness that underpins mindful eating training. Below, see more on what are the many benefits of mindful eating. Plus, check out this half price 10 class deal as a great way to learn the yoga mindfulness you’ll need for mindful eating.

To get started right now, beginners new to Flametree get their first class FREE. Then, newcomers or anyone away 3 months or more can get Flametree’s HALF price 10 class pack, with 2 FREE classes, $59.50, with no discount code needed and a 14-day money-back guarantee. You can use the 12 classes at 3 Darwin yoga studios, or online. Below, there’s also a HALF price deal for NON-beginners who are newcomers or away 3 months or more.

DOUBLE Deal:

  • Get TWO half off 10 packs (beginner or non-beginner).
  • When beginners buy 2 packs, they get 4 FREE classes.
  • This 2 pack deal only available at the time you 1st buy.

Beginners: your first class is FREE if you are new to Flametree. Then get the half price 10 pass plus 2 FREE classes, $59.50. No discount code is needed, and it has a 14-day money-back guarantee.

NON-Beginners: see non-beginners HALF off 10 pack deal.

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Best mindful eating classes

Mindful eating starts with being mindful, via yoga.

So use this deal to build mindfulness, online, or at 3 Darwin locations.

  1. Any of up to 7 beginner yoga classes a week.
  2. First class FREE if you are new, then 12 classes for $59.50.
  3. The 2 FREE classes are included. No code needed.
  4. Electives: Gentle Yoga, Yoga For Backs, & Restorative Yoga.
  5. Improvements in mindfulness, fitness, & flexibility.
  6. Plus, helps anxiety, stress, & more. (See diagram).
  7. Addresses at least 117 conditions yoga is proven to help.
  8. Then, implement the key mindful eating practices below.

* For newcomers, or anyone away 3 months or more. No discount code is needed. 14-day money-back guarantee, and 6 months from your first class to use the pass.

 

 

New NON-Beginner, Or Lapsed 6 Months? 

Get The NON-Beginner HALF Price 10 Pass With 2 FREE ($104.50, No Code Needed), Plus Concession & Online Only Rates.

Half Price 10 Class Yoga Packs.

Beginner or NON-Beginner Options.

When you learn yoga mindfulness, your yoga teacher essentially becomes your mindful eating coach, and your yoga classes become the key component of your mindful eating training.

So, learn yoga mindfulness with these great deals. Then you’ll be equipped and able to build mindful eating practices we outline further below, into your life.

BEGINNERS: New, or away 3 months or more

Get 10 HALF price beginner classes for Flametree’s 3 Darwin locations, or online.

Classes at Woolner, Palmerston, & Casuarina (Lyons).

Your first class is FREE if you are new to Flametree. Then, this 10 pack is usually $119. Instead, you get 10 in-studio or online classes at half price, plus 2 more FREE, for $59.50 in total. No discount code is needed, and it has a 14-day money-back guarantee.

The 2 FREE classes are included. You have 6 months from your first class to use the pass.

Plus, if you use the DOUBLE deal, you get 4 FREE classes.

No discount code is needed. Just go to the beginner deal page and use Add To Cart. The price you see is the price you pay. (Questions? Just contact us).

Just use Add To Cart to get your HALF price 10 pack, and 2 FREE classes. If you need it, here is the class timetable, or see it in the reservations app.

NON-BEGINNERS: New, or away 3 months or more

A non-beginner 10 pack is normally $209.

But, for new and away 3 months or more, you get 10 at half price plus 2 FREE, $104.50 in total (no code needed, with a money-back guarantee if your first class is not for you).

Plus, concessions get concession rates too. Online only, and online concessions, are cheaper again.

 

Get mindful eating via mindfulness, & much more

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DOUBLE Deal: But 2 at half price, & get 4 FREE classes.

Start yoga. Then implement the mindful eating practices we outline below.

Ongoing, basic yoga classes with other beginners

Our ongoing beginner level classes can be joined at any time, by total newcomers.

They’re easy, beginner yoga that you can start right away, without any introduction or other background.

You’ll be with other beginners, doing just basic yoga poses.

You’re teacher, and mindful eating coach, will also give everyone some yoga props, so as to help you get the full benefits of the poses.

If you have any worry about whether you can do it, the Yoga For Backs Class, and Gentle Yoga classes, are the very easiest places to start.

Beginner poses in our mindful eating training & yoga classes

what are the benefits of mindful eating

You’ll be learning easy yoga poses that are accessible to all ages, genders, and levels of fitness. Remember, with the DOUBLE deal, you can buy the HALF price pass twice. So, you get two HALF price passes, at beginner or non-beginner level.

Flametree Yoga Darwin NT locations

Flametree Yoga Darwin city classes are in-studio at 19 Bishop Street, Woolner, NT (see location here) or LIVE online via Zoom. It’s in a very central Darwin location, just 3km from the CBD.

Plus, in the Palmerston NT region, our yoga classes are at Gray Hall. (See the Google map at the link).

In addition, you can go to beginners yoga classes at Flametree Yoga Casuarina NT.

And, this same 10 class pack can be used for all beginner level classes. So grab this deal at less than $5 a class!

Mindful eating practices can be implemented once you are mindful!

So, get this HALF price offer now, no code needed.

Mindful eating classes coach & training

Our mindful eating classes focus on learning mindfulness via yoga. Then, implementing these mindful eating practices, with the advice of your teacher, and mindful eating coach, is do-able. See below for our summary of what are the benefits of mindful eating.

A free first class, then 2 FREE classes in the pass

New to Flametree? Your first class is FREE. Then the half price pass gives you 2 additional, FREE beginner yoga classes, for 12 in total at $59.50, with a 14-day money-back guarantee.

So, get this special HALF price offer, already at 50% off, no code needed.

No discount code is needed. The price below is already set at half price.

Prefer to decide later? Put your email in the box above and we will send you the offer.

Then, for in-studio classes, you can JUST GO TO our above locations 10 minutes before class time.

However, if you’re attending online, make a class reservation, & a ZOOM link will be sent to you. This reservation link is also on your receipt.

BUY VIA THE ‘ADD TO CART’ BUTTON BELOW. NO CODE NEEDED.

Alternatively, get this HALF price offer now, no code needed. No code is needed.

Beginner Yoga Darwin and Online Deal: 50% OFF New / Lapsed

Original price was: USD$82.79.Current price is: USD$41.40.

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Beginner Yoga Darwin and Online Deal: 50% OFF New / Lapsed

Original price was: USD$82.79.Current price is: USD$41.40.

12 beginner classes: $59.50. (Ten at HALF OFF + 2 FREE).

Use across Darwin or LIVE online. With money back guarantee.

For permanent NT residents, or online.

Real beginner yoga across Darwin region, or online, or both. Simple poses, supportive teachers, no flexibility needed. Whether you’ve never done yoga before, or you used to and have lapsed for 3 months plus, this pass is designed for you.

What you get

  • 10 beginner classes at HALF price + 2 extra classes FREE — 12 classes total for $59.50
  • Use your pass in-studio (Woolner, Coolalinga / Palmerston, or Casuarina), or LIVE (streamed) online from home
  • Includes meditation classes, Gentle Yoga, Restorative Yoga, and Yoga for Backs — all on the same pass
  • Taught by Chris Lalor (Senior Iyengar Yoga Teacher) and her experienced team — 29 years teaching beginners across Darwin, and LIVE online
  • Props and mat supplied free in the studio. Students can purchase a starter props pack if needed
  • Choice of any mix of many convenient beginner class times, each week
  • Money-back guarantee on your first class — if it’s not the right fit, full refund. No hassle.

Buy now via “Add To Cart” button below, or choose further options below. For instance, see the HALF price 20-pass upgrade option.

The reduced $59.50 HALF price for 12 classes, with or without 5 more, is directly below — no discount code is needed.

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What your first foundation yoga class actually feels like

“Beginner” yoga at Flametree Darwin really means beginner. At our Darwin yoga studios, you’ll be welcomed as you come in the door. It’s foundation yoga in the high quality Iyengar style. You won’t need to know anything before you arrive. We’ll show you where to put your shoes, where to set up, and what to expect. The beginner yoga poses are simple. We use props (blocks, straps, blankets, chairs, and walls) to make every pose work for your body. Not as a shortcut — as a way of meeting you exactly where you are. Try studio or LIVE online beginner yoga, Darwin style. Wherever you are, they’re also the best value online yoga classes Australia has.

Beginners don’t need to be flexible. You don’t need to be fit. You don’t need to have done yoga before. You just need to show up — and we’ll take it from there.

NON-beginner deals for new or 3 mths lapsed

Foundation Yoga Darwin & LIVE Online

Introductory Foundation Yoga Darwin beginner

Start Darwin foundation yoga exactly where you are. Props and clear guidance make yoga doable from day one. Or see my own story on how and why I got into yoga.

Other useful links

Or learn more below.

Try a beginner yoga class. If it’s not right, your money back.

We want you to come and try a beginner yoga class Darwin region, or online, without worrying about whether you’ve made the right decision.

Here’s how the guarantee works. Buy the 10-pass + 2 free. Come to your first class. If — for any reason — you decide it’s not the right fit for you, contact us within 14 days and we’ll refund the full pass. No questions, no hassle, no awkward conversation.

We’ve been teaching beginners across Darwin for 29 years. Most people who come find it’s exactly what they were looking for. But if you’re not one of them, we don’t want your money. Simple as that.

What beginner yoga option is right for me?

Not sure which option fits your situation? Here’s a quick guide to our introductory yoga offers Darwin region, and beyond.

I’ve never done yoga before

You’re in the right place. The beginner 10-pass + 2 free classes is designed specifically for you. Just add it to cart above. Props and mat are provided at the studio, the classes are genuinely simple, and we don’t expect you to know anything when you arrive.

I used to do yoga, but it’s been more than 3 months

Good news — you’re eligible for the half-price deal too. Lapsed students get the same offer as complete beginners. Just use the Add To Cart button above, and complete the purchase.

I’m not new or lapsed. I just want a normal ten pass

We love having you around. Here’s the usual good value ten pack, with 10 classes for $11.90 each.

I need a higher level than foundation yoga.

You can try several higher levels of NON-beginner yoga. If you’re new or lapsed 3 months, you can also get a HALF price 20 pass, plus 2 FREE classes. There’s also concession packs, and online only ten packs.

See the NON-Beginner HALF price deals.

I want as many half-price classes as possible

You can extend well beyond the initial 10-pass. The optional 5-class add-on (visible as you add to cart) gives you 5 more half-price classes. Or, upgrade to the bigger starter — 20 classes at half price + 2 free, with the option of up to 30 classes at half price — for even better per-class value.

See the 20 pass deal at HALF OFF + 2 FREE.

I want LIVE online, rather than coming to the studio

Many beginner classes are available LIVE via Zoom with the same teachers, same quality, same results. Many of our regular students join online from home, even when they live within 10–40 minutes of the studio. If you’re joining online, you might also want a starter props pack — it has everything you need to practise properly at home.

See the yoga prop pack deals.

Studio & LIVE online beginner yoga Darwin deals

LIVE online beginner yoga Darwin

Studio & LIVE online beginner yoga Darwin deals. Doable yoga for all ages, sizes, and genders.

I’m interested in meditation or gentler classes, or Yoga For Backs

Your pass covers all of it. The timetable includes meditation, Gentle Yoga, Restorative Yoga, and Yoga for Backs — all on the same 10-pass, no extra cost.

See details in the Beginner timetable.

Why it’s the best of introductory yoga offers Darwin region, & beyond

Use this same half price beginner pass for LIVE (streamed) online, or studio classes across the Darwin region, or both. Mix and match studio or online as much as you like.

Our studios are at Woolner, Coolalinga / Palmerston, and Casuarina. Convenient foundation yoga classes cover Greater Darwin. For instance, Coolalinga to Palmerston is half the distance of Palmerston to Darwin City.

Casuarina (Lyons Centre) also serves the northern suburbs, and the Woolner studio is just 8.7 kilometres from Casauarina Square.

Props and mats are supplied at all locations. Just come along in comfortable sports clothes, or leggings if you want.

If you’d rather practise from home, our LIVE Zoom classes have the same teachers, the same atmosphere, and the same quality of instruction. Many of our long-term students choose at least some online — even when they live close to a studio.

Introductory yoga offers Darwin region & online

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Use the same foundation yoga pass in studio across Greater Darwin or live online from home.

Why people choose Flametree Darwin region / online

29 years teaching beginners in Darwin

Chris Lalor founded Flametree 24 years ago, after 5 years teaching at another Darwin studio. She’s an accredited Senior Iyengar Yoga Teacher and certified Yoga Therapist — one of only a small number in Australia.

Chris and her teachers specialise in beginners who feel stiff, who’ve never done yoga, or who’ve been told they “probably should” but haven’t found the right entry point. (Many are still practising at Flametree, years later.)

By the way, Flametree teachers are all extensively trained and closely supervised by Chris. (Plus, it takes a minimum of 3 years to even start Flametree’s Iyengar style teacher training, and then at least another 3 years to be ready to actually teach).

Simple, doable, foundational poses — no jumping into the deep end

Flametree’s teaching style has been shaped by nearly three decades of working with real beginners in real Darwin bodies. The classes don’t try to look impressive. They try to be useful. Slow, held standing poses with props, breathing work that calms the nervous system, and gentle progression that lets your body adapt at its own pace.

Over time, they will guide you to whatever further levels of yoga you choose. With the right foundation, you’ll even learn exciting and highly beneficial inverted poses.

Props that make every pose accessible

Blocks, straps, walls, chairs, bolsters. We use them not as shortcuts — but as a way of making correct alignment available to every body, at every age, with every level of stiffness.

The result is that poses that might look impossible from the outside are genuinely doable, and more rapidly than otherwise. They also help ensure your safety.

Best beginner yoga Darwin and online deal

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In the Beginner yoga Darwin and online deal, your foundation yoga pass can also be used for easier classes like Gentle Yoga, Restorative Yoga, and Yoga for Backs.

Want more from your yoga pass?

A few optional ways to extend or customise your starter pass.

Add 5 more half-price yoga classes

If you already know you want more momentum, tick the add-on box near the Add to Cart button (above). That gives you 15 half-price classes plus your 2 free — 17 classes in total. Same low per-class price.

Upgrade to the 20-pass starter (better per-class value)

Many people who try the 10-pass come back for more. If you already know that’s likely you, the 20-pass + 2 free is better value per class — and you can extend it further still with extra half-price add-ons. Go here to get up to 30 half price classes, and 2 FREE.

Starter props pack (for home and online yoga students)

In-the-studio students don’t need this, because props are supplied free at all locations. But if you’re joining online from home, or want a proper home setup, our starter props pack includes a yoga mat, two blocks, a strap, an eye cover, and a beginner pose poster. Plus, you can add 3 blankets, and an extra block. Free shipping anywhere in Australia.

See the yoga prop packs here.

Frequently asked questions

How long is the pass valid for?

Your pass is valid for 6 months from the date of your first class. Plenty of time to settle in, and build a habit that will make it easier to keep it up.

What if I’m really stiff or really unfit?

You’re exactly who these classes are designed for. Most new beginners arrive feeling stiff, unfit, or unsure. Props and modifications make every pose accessible. You’ll never be asked to do something your body isn’t ready for.

What if I’ve got a back, hip, knee, or shoulder issue?

Let the teacher know before class. We work with these conditions regularly. The Yoga for Backs class in particular is designed for people managing back issues — and it’s included on the same pass. (But the class is still very useful for any beginner). Also, all beginner yoga classes at Flametree have a reputation for helping with back issues.

Do I need to book in for each class?

No bookings are needed for in-the-studio classes. Once you’ve bought the pass, make a reservation just for online classes, and then we’ll send you the link to join the class.

Go to this link to make online class reservations.

Can I share my pass with my partner or a friend?

Passes are for individual use. If a friend or partner wants to join you, they can buy their own pass too — and you’ll have someone to practise with. Attending with a friend will help you keep it up.

What does the money-back guarantee actually cover?

If your first class from the pack isn’t right for you, contact us within 14 days and we’ll refund the full pass cost. No questions, no awkward conversation. You can use the first class to decide.

How often can I get it at HALF price?

These half-price deals for new or lapsed students are only available to any one person for a maximum of twice in a two-year period.

Why they’re the best value online yoga classes Australia has

For studio or online, you get at least 12 classes at just $4.96 each. Online or at studios, beginners elsewhere usually pay the same rate as non-beginners, and its mostly $20-30 for a single class. Even non-interactive video classes are usually more than $5 a class.

Let’s know if you find any yoga deal better than Flametree.

Ready for beginner yoga, Darwin or online?

Scroll back up and choose your option. The price you see is the price you pay — no discount code needed.

Still got questions about our these introductory yoga offers Darwin region, or online? Call or text us on 0468 362 641 or 0448 11 22 51.

Or send a message via the direct contact options.

If you call, and miss us, leave a message. We may be teaching, but will call you back rapidly. We’re happy to help you figure out the right place to start.

Wherever you are, try studio or LIVE online beginner yoga, Darwin style. And if you’re online only, remember they’re also the best value online yoga classes Australia has.

See you in class (or online!).

— Chris and the Flametree team

Need more information before you buy? No problem.

Take a look at the full description of this 10 pack of classes.

No discount code is needed.

Remember, your discount codes can be used TWICE. 

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Flametree’s yoga classes will suit any age, gender, or fitness level.

Mindful eating starts with mindfulness training

Much mindful eating training has its major focus just on eating practices. It’s no use to you if you can’t get mindful in the first place!

Mindful eating practices, without mindfulness, is like a sailing boat without a sail. You can’t get where you want to to!

So, Flametree’s training has its major focus on getting to be mindful, via yoga.

In addition, when you’re ready, you can also add our breath meditation training. It helps mindfulness even more.

Mindful eating training works

According to research studies, mindful eating, including mindful eating classes, are good for your mind, and your body. Here are 3 examples.

  • For instance, researchers have found a positive relationship between mindful eating and healthy eating. Mindfulness is associated with less impulsive eating, reduced calorie consumption, and healthier snack choices. (Jordan, Wang, & Donatoni, 2014).
  • Another study found that a mindfulness-based waist reduction program led to greater mindfulness, cognitive restraint around eating, and significant decreases in the waist line, binge eating, depression, and stress (Dalen, Smith, Shelley, Sloan, Leahigh, & Begay, 2010).
  • An intervention focused on mindful eating at restaurants also proved to be effective in helping people manage their waist. Those who participated in the intervention also lowered their average daily caloric intake, and fat intake, and enjoyed increased self-efficacy. That it, they felt more confident about their ability to do all these things. (Timmerman & Brown, 2012).

Contact us if you need more information, or use the CHAT button.

Or, see below for what are the additional benefits of mindful eating.

Otherwise, get this HALF price offer now, no code needed.

All yoga poses, even inverted ones, at taught in small, do-able steps.

You learn easy preparatory poses that all can do.

What are the benefits of mindful eating?

What are the benefits of mindful eating? First, yoga mindfulness enables it. Then, it helps change habits on issues like nourishment, inflammatory foods, sustainability, emotional eating, & more. Therefore, you can positively impact your waist, sugar consumption, health, & self-image. Plus, you can be your own mindful eating coach.

Here is some more detail of the benefits of mindful eating.

  • Mindful eating lets you look at your habits regarding eating.
  • As a result, you understand how to change eating habits.
  • You also see more about how you look at food.
  • It causes you to look at everything that you eat, including nourishment you get, stiffness that certain foods can generate, where the food is sourced, and more.
  • As well, it lets you see how you use food in your life, such as emotional eating, related anxiety issues, and such like. (The picture below illustrates this issue)
  • It works for the waistline, reducing sugar, increasing protein, reducing stiffness from inflammation, or whatever other choices you choose around food.
  • Plus, it helps overall health, and self-image.
  • Meanwhile, the yoga and meditation that underpins successful mindful eating, also have many other benefits.
  • Among other things, yoga also reduces stress, and Dr McCall has outlined how that also reduces the waistline.
  • It’s also likely to lead to you living more sustainably, with a lower carbon “footprint”.

In addition, yoga is a positive practice that helps you be more intentional about making changes in your life. So, yoga and mindful eating work powerfully together.

There is of course even more that could be said about what are the benefits of mindful eating. This outline is still just a summary overview.

Flametree Yoga Darwin NT props & mats

The best way to start is simply get a pass and attend a first class.

At the studio, Flametree provides mats and other yoga props. All you need is comfortable clothes with room to stretch.

So, just turn up 10-15 minutes before the class starts, and check in with the teacher.

If you’re online at home, it’s a good idea to have a least a non-slip yoga mat, or any non-slip surface. If you wish, see more on yoga props, including how to improvise them for online yoga.

Please note that only 5 of Flametree Yoga’s beginner classes are online too. You can see these at the beginner timetable.

So, get this HALF price offer now, no code needed.

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Your first class is free if you are new to Flametree, and the half price pass adds 2 more free classes.

Top quality yoga in a supportive environment

Situated in Woolner NT, Flametree’s main studio is just 3 kilometres the Darwin CBD.

Flametree classes are fully airconditioned. Air quality is also safe, and monitored.

​So, that’s all part of why this HALF price 10 pack is such a great option for new or lapsed students.

So, get this HALF price offer now, no code needed.

Chris Lalor Flametree

Flametree’s accredited Senior Yoga Teacher, and Yoga Therapist, Chris Lalor. When you learn yoga mindfulness, your yoga teacher, such as Chris, is essentially your mindful eating coach, and your yoga classes become the key component of your mindful eating training. Plus, if you need it, she can tell you much more about what are the benefits of mindful eating. She does it as an ongoing part of her life. You can also read her story of her own mindful eating success.

Flametree newcomers get low-cost yoga classes with many benefits

Flametree’s hatha yoga classes are the best form of exercise for any any age, gender, or fitness level.

So, come to any of our Flametree yoga locations and fitness centres, or online, and try it for yourself.

Later, once you’ve learnt more about being mindful via yoga, you’ll be able to also get more mindful via our breath meditation classes.

Remember, when you learn yoga mindfulness, your yoga teacher also becomes your mindful eating coach, and your yoga classes become the key component of your mindful eating training.

Easy, beginner yoga poses that all can do

Gertrude Knight Of Flametree Yoga

A Flametree Yoga Darwin city teacher demonstrating a simple stretch to straighten the spine, and improve posture. Try our mindful eating training, via yoga classes to build mindfulness.

Mindful eating classes for waistline issues.

​So, our mindful eating classes are one of the best ways to manage or reduce the waistline.

By the way, with our discussions about such matters, we’re assuming that you’ve chosen this issue as important for you.

Flametree makes no judgement about such issues. Whatever size, shape, or eating practices you choose is your business.

In addition, if you have any medical condition around such matters, then we suggest you discuss these matters with your GP.

In other words, Flametree provides its services or advice on these matters, just for those people who wish to consider the pathways or outcomes I’ve outlined.

​Flametree’s mix of yoga classes, used at levels that suit your skills, plus advice from our mindful eating coach, can help you with any waistline issues that are important to you.

Reviews about our mindful eating training, and yoga

On the public Google profile page for Flametree, see this recent review from a current Flametree student. She says:

“I’ve been attending regular classes at Flametree for 12 months. They’ve had such a positive and transformative impact on my health and wellbeing. 

Before that, I struggled with chronic back pain for a few years. As a result, it contributed to substantial weight gain, insomnia, depression, and anxiety. 

But, starting with the beginner yoga program, I’ve slowly regained strength and mobility. In addition, I’ve got a sense of control over some of the spiraling effects these conditions have had. 

Plus, through regular practice, attending various workshops, and focus classes, I’ve learned to adopt a more mindful approach to movement and food choices, and have lost 30 kgs in the process. 

So, a year ago I could not foresee this as being remotely possible. 

Plus, the instructors at Flametree are amazing – really knowledgeable and welcoming. In addition, the classes cater to all ages and levels of experience.”

If you wish, check out other Flametree Yoga Darwin city and regions reviews.

Plus, as we mentioned, see more about the mindful eating journey of Flametree’s mindful eating coach and accredited Senior Yoga Teacher.

Flametree yoga for all your yoga mindfulness needs

Learn yoga, and mindfulness, with this top deal.

In turn, you’ll transform your yoga classes into mindful eating classes.

So, try our mindful eating training, via yoga classes to build mindfulness.

No code is needed.